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jean-luc picard
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Another day, another apostate. Here's my story.
by I Want to Believe inbeen lurking for a bit, and feel safe enough now to tell my story (condensed).. i'm a third-generation born-in, but my parents were inactive for most of my upbringing.
this means i got the worst of both worlds--no worldly friends (home schooled all but grades 2-3), no witness friends (since we never went to the hall except for memorial), and a generally isolated upbringing in a tiny, tiny town.
needless to say, my emotional, social, and personal growth were stunted.
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New one
by freshcrepes ini've been lurking on this forum for over a year, and i thought i'd say a quick hello.. .
i was raised as a jehovah's witness and managed to endure past the encouragement that one receives from age 16 onwards about what is holding me back, and never got baptised.
i figured that making one of the most important decisions of my life requires a lot more thought than people seemed to be giving it, and shouldn't be based on emotion as is quite common.. .
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jean-luc picard
Welcome to the board freshcrepes.
You say:
I'm not sure what a university education can give me except a certification confirming that I've learnt something. The information is more important than the certification to me at the moment. What do you think?
Unfortunately its what the employer thinks that counts. I have moved to a country where a diploma is crucial to holding many positions on the employment ladder. I have just passed a university degree at 50 years old.
Fortunately, my employer sponsored me. It is only a piece of paper, but as my boss said, so is a driving licence.
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Holy Cow! A Mr. Falcon post! (persecution obsession)
by Mr. Falcon inyup.
let's begin.. i went to the kingdom hall yesterday for the first time in awhile.
the public talk was something like "trust in jehovah" and the speaker (whom i know personally and is a tad "off") was rambling on about the persecution that we are going to face imminently.
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jean-luc picard
Greetings Mr falcon.
Like you, as a young boy, I was scared of the day when we would be tortured horribly, and back then we were told
that it was surely coming. But now I'm grown up, I wonder " do they really believe they are that important?
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Our videos on WT 15.04.12 - page 12
by Motema Bolingo inon our website "aggelia", see our new video.. versions available on 27th januari : french - english - dutch.
we hope to add german - italian - spanish.
http://www.aggelia.be/videos/tg0412_intro.html.
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jean-luc picard
Merci.
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I have allegedly been charged with apostasy
by Igot2bme ini recieved a letter today and it reads:.
sister jennifer b****,.
we request your presence for a judical hearing.
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jean-luc picard
I was sad when I first got it then I was like WTF
Life DOES go on. This is just the next logical step in your evolution. Being true to yourself is the only way to live a fulfilling life.
Do you have family still in? If so, how are they likely to react?
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DC theme any year
by jean-luc picard infirst of all , may i wish you all a happy new year.. in response to obaracs earlier thread, i think it would be amusing to list all the dc themes that we can remember.. it would be interesting to compile them in excel and amusing to see the irony in them over the decades.. so what themes do you recall, and from what year?.
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jean-luc picard
Sorry. Should have done some research first
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/176420/1/Convention-Themes
Thanks JWS.
Finally, you realize that its all a bit hollow! Why did we go?
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DC theme any year
by jean-luc picard infirst of all , may i wish you all a happy new year.. in response to obaracs earlier thread, i think it would be amusing to list all the dc themes that we can remember.. it would be interesting to compile them in excel and amusing to see the irony in them over the decades.. so what themes do you recall, and from what year?.
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jean-luc picard
First of all , may I wish you all a happy new year.
In response to obaracs earlier thread, I think it would be amusing to list all the DC themes that we can remember.
It would be interesting to compile them in Excel and amusing to see the irony in them over the decades.
So what themes do you recall, and from what year?
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"Freeing" those "trapped" in the Organization.
by curiouscynic ini have family members who are still jws, many of you do as well.
assuming your folks are similar to mine, they are, for the most part, rational.
they are jws because they believe and they have a tremendous amount of scriptural knowledge, albeit of wts origins and with the expected bias.. if i chose to demonstrate, to my father particularly, the inconsistencies in wts ideology... he might just decide to leave.
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jean-luc picard
CC, you say:
He said that this [JW life] is what he's done his entire life and he didn't know what sort of person he'd be without it.
My mother is the same, and I think I can understand it ( she is quite old): for many, its easier to stay in, rather than face the uncertainty of life ( with all of its rewards), starting out all over.Also to have to admit that they have wasted a large portion of their precious life. They are afraid. Period. They dont have the character to leave, so they dont want to hear anything that makes them uneasy. Typical ostrich stuff.
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Put up my first xmas tree this weekend
by TweetieBird ini didn't think i would ever do xmas but i must say that i kinda got into it and it turned out really nice for a virgin..
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jean-luc picard
Merry Christmas everybody.
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undeniable facts of history
by bobld inin 1939 hilter(evil) invaded poland and killed approx.16.5% of the pop.. what about jehovah god.in his history book the bible.see deut.ch, 2&3.. he punished his nation israel for 40 yrs because they choose (free will) not to enter the promise land.. notice deut.2;34 what happened to the cities of king sihon of heshbon.we(jehovah) completely destroyed(extirpate,exterminated) the people in every city-the men.women.and children.we (jehovah) did not leave anyone alive.. later in deut.3;6- 60 cities in the area of argob(og's kingdom in bashan) we (jehovah)completely destroyed(raze) every city and all the people in them,even the women and the babies.
(really sick).. many will use the excuse,that god had to destroy them to prevent problems for his people such as idolatry,etc.yeah right kill babies,just like hilter killed the jews.. and they say read the bible and mediate on all the killings.no thank-you.
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jean-luc picard
His answer was that god ordered one and not the other. Chilling!
Just like many war criminals pleaded:
" I was only following orders".